tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post8816639497685874679..comments2024-02-24T01:52:05.892-07:00Comments on BrownEyedCowgirl: The Next StepBrownEyed Cowgirlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03610547057139295854noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-86777684994047355642012-07-03T21:44:24.674-06:002012-07-03T21:44:24.674-06:00BEC do you remember me asking you ages ago about s...BEC do you remember me asking you ages ago about stifles & rehab? (for my friend's mare) She ended up getting the blistering done. The mare wasn't 100% after but she was much better. (part of why she wasn't 100% is the farrier was doing a crap job on her feet)<br /><br />Funny that you would post this today, Sunday/Monday was the Ed clinic and just yesterday in the classroom portion someone asked about injections.cdncowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055181472294995601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-33719310965527665742012-07-03T20:38:25.021-06:002012-07-03T20:38:25.021-06:00Good Farriers are awesome, we are so lucky to have...Good Farriers are awesome, we are so lucky to have Wade (Mikey too). he is awesome with our girls and lets them help and teaches them quite a bit. He always is willing to chat with us and show Josh why he is doing something. AND, whenever we notice something with a foot or 2 we mention it to him and he will set the shoe different or square a toe or whatever it takes to fix it.Carroll Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06984389331445746632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-27301056694864516072012-07-03T19:37:02.567-06:002012-07-03T19:37:02.567-06:00Sure hope you can figure out what is causing his p...Sure hope you can figure out what is causing his problem.Reddunappyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789213785183576404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-24349489555222236072012-07-03T18:01:41.407-06:002012-07-03T18:01:41.407-06:00You know kestrel...that is a really good point. I ...You know kestrel...that is a really good point. I get the whole 'rehab' for the stifle after an injury or to bring condition level up...but it sure takes a whole lot of 'rehab' work to keep Moon sound. Moon's at a point in his 'career' and at an age where it seems like an awful lot of riding/conditioning just to keep him going. I pony him as much as possible to keep the work as easy as possible, but I kinda feel like I am wearing him out just to keep him strong.<br /><br />Laura-I believe the injection into the tendon is called blistering. The iodine blisters the tendon and causes it to shorten, which keeps the leg from getting too far behind and further straining/stretching the tendon(s). I am not sure what the solution is that they inject into the stifle joint...probably the same as what they inject into the hocks?BrownEyed Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03610547057139295854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-81397467825094851572012-07-03T17:20:17.594-06:002012-07-03T17:20:17.594-06:00My old horse had upward fixation of the patella, a...My old horse had upward fixation of the patella, and I had the surgery done on him. They actually take a scalpel and cut the small tendon that slides over and hangs up. It took a long time to diagnose him, because he didn't hang up completely, and he was smart enough to kind of hitch his stifle joint and unlock it himself. When he was tranked for the surgery he locked solid though! He never had a problem after that, and I did everything with him for 28 years, jumped, showed, trails, games,... He died last year at age 30, and was never sore in his stifles. I have had several friends who tried hill work, etc. and their horses eventually wound up with arthritis in the joint. Good info on it in the book 'The Horse Doctor Is In' by Brent Kelley, DMVkestrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03253025366100154732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-48064833063031077382012-07-03T15:48:02.953-06:002012-07-03T15:48:02.953-06:00Interesting stuff...hopefully the shoe reset will ...Interesting stuff...hopefully the shoe reset will help things in the stifles for Moon. Is the stifle injection that you are referring to the same as blistering the stifle? If so, I've heard that it works well... Don't forget to update us when you have the u/s report!Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01736592362765508427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-10844388219905796792012-07-03T14:58:37.754-06:002012-07-03T14:58:37.754-06:00Reddunappy-I get what you are saying, but it was j...Reddunappy-I get what you are saying, but it was just one foot (the right front) that was starting to have some overhang...which is why I specifically brought it up with the farrier. If it was all or a set (front or back) that was showing the same problem, it would be different...I would believe that my farrier was just shoeing too tight and that would be the end of him nailing shoes to my horses feet. But when one foot starts to show problems it was either a problem with that specific shoe placement or that foot is changing to compensate for something else.<br /><br />HOne thing that Sue Smith was really adamant about (and I heartily agree with) was the need to reset more often rather than try to leave any sort of 'grow into room' when shoeing barrel horses. She believes 4 weeks is the max you should go between resets and depending on the horse, she typically resets at 2-3 weeks when she is going down the road. I have been having Moon and Spooks reset every 4 weeks and they were sure ready for it at 4 weeks this time around. That one extra week really showed.<br /><br />Shirley-Moon ran barefoot for 4 years and I much prefer to keep my horses barefoot so I can keep up with their feet myself. It was the middle of last year when I was watching his videos and realized he was stabbing his hind toes. That was when I decided to have him shod. Unfortunately, the run I put on him 2 days before he was going to be shod is when he got hurt. At the time, I believed he jammed his back...now with everything that is transpiring...I'm wondering if it was his back?...I'm thinking that the reason the chiropractor couldn't find anything after the first visit, even though Moon continued to show excessive soreness was because it was actually his stifle (again!). The back soreness sure could have been due to compensating for stifle pain and that is probably what brought on the ulcer/hindgut problem.BrownEyed Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03610547057139295854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-78802052854923619702012-07-03T13:05:37.366-06:002012-07-03T13:05:37.366-06:00Just curious, do you ever run him barefoot? Seems ...Just curious, do you ever run him barefoot? Seems the hooves would be easier to maintain without the shoes, and do shoes help him to run better?Shirleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15454110560303310751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-46443223839008074332012-07-03T13:01:49.980-06:002012-07-03T13:01:49.980-06:00I like that your major concern id Moons comfort , ...I like that your major concern id Moons comfort , if he is sound to run cool, but the priority sounds look his comfort and well being are paramountSherry Sikstromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15739108723318002627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-2600820718953127092012-07-03T11:42:32.079-06:002012-07-03T11:42:32.079-06:00Since I used to work for a big show barn, where in...Since I used to work for a big show barn, where injections are very commonly used, I like that you would rather not go that route and get to the root of the problem to see what exactly needs to be done. That shows a lot about you and how you care for your horses. At the show barns, it's all about going out and getting that Champion or Reserve Champion ribbon, not about the horse. I've seen many horses break down way too quick for that reason. It's sad. <br />It will be very interesting to see what the u/s shows. Hopefully it's not a tear in the tendon. We all just want Moon to feel better so you can go back to winning some money!!Paint Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095673661149903754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-90588124370613784792012-07-03T11:14:58.062-06:002012-07-03T11:14:58.062-06:00When I do have mine shod, I have always asked the ...When I do have mine shod, I have always asked the farrier to set the heels wide. I want a good 1/8 inch of shoe showing at the heel. On horses that overreach this would be difficult. But I have never had a horse step on a shoe and pull it. I just find the hoof relaxes after being shod, and starts hanging over within a week, the expansion and contraction thing.Reddunappyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789213785183576404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-83935890227393663062012-07-03T10:59:39.209-06:002012-07-03T10:59:39.209-06:00I hope you can figure out what is going on. Kudos ...I hope you can figure out what is going on. Kudos to spending the time to find out what is going on rather than jumping straight to injections. And even if you wind up with them, at least you will know why and what changes to look for.WishIHadAHorseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08658225870536527537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-75351094259686069592012-07-03T10:56:15.893-06:002012-07-03T10:56:15.893-06:00Uhhh...Forgot to say that to address the immediate...Uhhh...Forgot to say that to address the immediate problem of Moon pushing off of his hind toe...The farrier put shoes with a bit of a trailer on his rears. That will give him more support back there.BrownEyed Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03610547057139295854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6550515326326288148.post-3083024301083957712012-07-03T10:52:52.967-06:002012-07-03T10:52:52.967-06:00Really interesting findings! Poor Moon, can't...Really interesting findings! Poor Moon, can't wait to see what the u/s finds...Funderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358687366401205336noreply@blogger.com